Unlock the Secret to Viral Content: Humor + Authenticity with Comedy Genius Mike Freed!

[00:00:00] How long are the open mind sex?

[00:00:02] Uh, it's not safe.

[00:00:04] Open mind sex!

[00:00:05] Whoa, this changed the subject.

[00:00:07] Wow, what type of fight is this?

[00:00:09] Not that bad.

[00:00:10] Curious, do you tell jokes in the courtroom?

[00:00:12] You know, more than I should.

[00:00:14] Words matter and now tonality matters as well, right?

[00:00:17] And if we're communicators, we're putting our message out to the world,

[00:00:20] how we say it matters as much because it will carry emotion.

[00:00:23] I'm sure I'll never say anything in my entire life that's worth remembering,

[00:00:27] but I am making people feel a certain way, whether it's my kids,

[00:00:31] whether it's, you know, wife, girlfriend, you know, friends, you guys.

[00:00:35] That's gonna be more important because that's how you think about me

[00:00:38] and maybe even how you think about yourself.

[00:00:40] What are some of the ways that you look into previously done things to improve?

[00:00:45] Baseball players, for example, they fail more often than they succeed, right?

[00:00:49] If you do about 300 your whole career, you're gonna go in the hall of fame.

[00:00:53] Whereas in lawyer, if I told my clients,

[00:00:55] I fail 70% of the time, I am a...

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[00:01:27] We have one of our studio podcasts with clients as a guest.

[00:01:31] Woo-hoo!

[00:01:32] He is a philanthropist that has raised over 2 million for his charity,

[00:01:36] Free to Run, which, all his running,

[00:01:39] puts all of my brothers' tough mothers to shame.

[00:01:43] Not only that, but he's a father to five,

[00:01:46] all while working for one of the biggest law firms in Florida

[00:01:49] and crushing the stage at comedy shows

[00:01:52] with his Free to Love comedy series.

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[00:01:56] Welcome the host of your first rodeo and good friend,

[00:02:00] Mike Freed!

[00:02:03] Woo-hoo!

[00:02:04] That's the best intro I've ever got.

[00:02:06] Thank you guys.

[00:02:07] We are trying to sell ourselves so we can introduce you

[00:02:09] into your comedy shows.

[00:02:10] You know, we'll again everybody hype top and then...

[00:02:12] I'll take it.

[00:02:13] I'm usually the first up, so I kind of self-introduce.

[00:02:16] This was amazing.

[00:02:17] There we go.

[00:02:18] We'll be there, I don't know, 0.5 up.

[00:02:20] I don't know how you would call it.

[00:02:21] It'd be an improvement.

[00:02:24] Yeah, we need to take some improved classes

[00:02:26] before we actually go do that.

[00:02:28] Yeah, absolutely.

[00:02:29] My wife says I'm not funny, but I'm convinced I am funny.

[00:02:32] Some days.

[00:02:33] If we make you laugh today,

[00:02:35] he said he will go on stage on Open Mike.

[00:02:38] He can make me laugh.

[00:02:39] I've already been laughing.

[00:02:41] I'll bring you guys out for an Open Mike.

[00:02:43] You should come out sometime.

[00:02:44] There's no way.

[00:02:45] Yeah, I need to work in a little minute.

[00:02:47] I need to work on some script.

[00:02:49] Do people just jump in there and improvise?

[00:02:51] Some that doesn't usually turn out very well.

[00:02:54] Some people think they have something funny to say,

[00:02:57] and you might be funny at the family dinner or around the table,

[00:03:00] but being funny on a stage,

[00:03:02] usually in a very compressed period of time,

[00:03:04] like three minutes or five minutes,

[00:03:06] they'll start a story and they'll be just barely scratching

[00:03:09] the surface when their time's up.

[00:03:11] Sometimes people lightning in a bottle,

[00:03:13] they're funny just out of the gate,

[00:03:15] but very infrequently.

[00:03:17] How long are the Open Mind sex?

[00:03:20] Open Mind sex.

[00:03:22] There we go.

[00:03:23] Change the subject.

[00:03:24] Wow, what the mopakas is this?

[00:03:26] That's just gonna happen.

[00:03:28] You might be funny with that.

[00:03:29] There we go, see?

[00:03:30] Okay, I guess I have an Open Mike.

[00:03:32] No, I'm kidding.

[00:03:33] The Open Mike set.

[00:03:34] How long is it?

[00:03:36] It depends where you are.

[00:03:37] I mean locally, say in Northeast Florida,

[00:03:39] you know, five minutes would probably be a typical Open Mind set.

[00:03:44] I just love it.

[00:03:45] Just love it.

[00:03:46] And if they're open,

[00:03:47] if you're guest, we all should be open minded about sex.

[00:03:50] That's your point, right?

[00:03:52] True that.

[00:03:53] Those lawyers.

[00:03:54] I love when Spanish gets in the way,

[00:03:56] you know, when the language barrier gets in the way

[00:03:58] in the most awkward moments.

[00:03:59] This is beautiful.

[00:04:00] I mean, I think I mentioned this last time.

[00:04:02] Have you guys speak Spanish?

[00:04:03] No.

[00:04:04] Sometimes, I don't know.

[00:04:05] I mean, Fonsey speaks Mexican.

[00:04:07] He lived with like six Mexicans in Texas.

[00:04:09] We tried, yeah, yeah, it was awesome.

[00:04:11] It was a great experience, let me tell you.

[00:04:12] But last time you were here,

[00:04:14] I remember telling you about this show

[00:04:16] I've been obsessed with.

[00:04:17] It's called A Kill Tony, right?

[00:04:19] Yeah, in Austin.

[00:04:20] Yeah.

[00:04:21] And they do like, they pull out of bucket and it's one minute,

[00:04:24] right?

[00:04:25] And it seems so frightening and so scary at the same time.

[00:04:29] So to plan that minute and I keep an eye on Tony,

[00:04:33] right?

[00:04:34] He's coaching these people, right?

[00:04:35] On how to do it.

[00:04:36] You got to write it.

[00:04:37] You got to put in the reps.

[00:04:38] You got to, you know, you're going to suck his part.

[00:04:40] And I see a lot of parallels, right?

[00:04:42] With also with publishing, right?

[00:04:43] Like clearly we still suck.

[00:04:45] I just made a massive mistake here, which is fine.

[00:04:47] It's okay.

[00:04:48] We laughed about it and we moved forward.

[00:04:49] But I remember like the first few episodes, right?

[00:04:51] And I remember a lot of the people on our clients here in the studio

[00:04:54] and all over when they start publishing,

[00:04:57] that's a very real thing, right?

[00:04:59] So obviously you come from, I guess,

[00:05:02] is it a corporate world, right?

[00:05:04] Very much corporate world in the law side of things.

[00:05:06] Exactly.

[00:05:07] And now you have an incredible podcast that we kind of inherited

[00:05:10] with the studio, which I really love.

[00:05:12] And then you also do comedy.

[00:05:13] How was that transition for you?

[00:05:14] Like was it natural?

[00:05:16] Did it come natural?

[00:05:18] Yeah, I don't know.

[00:05:19] I've got a weird mentality where I don't mind jumping into things

[00:05:24] with both feet and being a little impulsive.

[00:05:29] Obviously the law generally speaking doesn't reward

[00:05:33] that type of behavior.

[00:05:34] You have to be very careful and methodical and detailed.

[00:05:38] So that part was different.

[00:05:42] But there's an extroverted part of lawyering on the litigators,

[00:05:45] so being out in front, trying cases.

[00:05:48] But there are similarities and there's differences.

[00:05:53] You really do have to be willing to suck for a while.

[00:05:55] But the tension, and I think it's probably the same with podcasts

[00:05:59] and with a lot of the outward facing things that you guys

[00:06:02] and your listeners are part of,

[00:06:04] you need to get butts in seats.

[00:06:06] You need to get listeners.

[00:06:07] You need your friends and family coming to see you

[00:06:10] so that you can have a value proposition.

[00:06:13] But you may not be good at first.

[00:06:15] So that's the tension because in comedy,

[00:06:18] you will get gigs if you can get people to come see you.

[00:06:22] But then there's other comedians,

[00:06:24] especially the more established ones,

[00:06:26] who say you shouldn't invite anyone to see you

[00:06:28] for the first two years.

[00:06:29] Wow.

[00:06:30] But of course, especially in a smaller town,

[00:06:32] you're not going to be able to keep doing comedy

[00:06:35] unless you can get people to come see you.

[00:06:37] So you got to try to get good quicker

[00:06:40] and then also make your material fresh.

[00:06:43] Because unlike musicians who play other people's songs

[00:06:47] or play their own songs but play them at every set,

[00:06:50] nobody wants to come hear a comedian tell the same jokes

[00:06:53] week after week.

[00:06:54] So you got to freshen things up.

[00:06:56] Yeah.

[00:06:57] By talking about freshening things up

[00:06:59] and having a lot of reps,

[00:07:01] I'm relating this right now on a poker kick.

[00:07:04] I'm enjoying playing poker, learning poker.

[00:07:06] And one of the things...

[00:07:07] Did you win any money last week?

[00:07:09] I haven't played it.

[00:07:10] I didn't play it last week.

[00:07:11] But last time, I did take all your money.

[00:07:13] And I took my money back because I lent it to you

[00:07:15] and then I beat you and got it back.

[00:07:17] But that being said,

[00:07:19] one of the things that they're talking in that world

[00:07:21] is that now players get better quicker

[00:07:24] because they're able to play multiple hands online.

[00:07:28] Right?

[00:07:29] And they're just playing and they're exposed

[00:07:31] to so much information that technically

[00:07:33] the good players improve faster

[00:07:35] rather than go and play in person

[00:07:38] and only doing 30 hands an hour

[00:07:40] in comparison to literally hundreds of hands an hour.

[00:07:43] So now talking about that kind of exposure,

[00:07:46] I feel like it could potentially be the same

[00:07:48] with comedy and social media.

[00:07:50] People now can try skits faster

[00:07:52] and have a quick feedback loop

[00:07:55] and then test material

[00:07:57] and then go in person where you got to get button seeds

[00:08:00] and perform those good bits.

[00:08:02] Have you seen anything like that?

[00:08:04] Have you tried anything like that?

[00:08:06] Yeah, I mean you have to be willing.

[00:08:08] You're kind of talking about the fail fast concept, right?

[00:08:11] Which is kind of in vogue in a lot of areas.

[00:08:14] And yeah, comedy, you guys were athletes.

[00:08:17] You guys were soccer players, your listeners probably know.

[00:08:19] Looking at me won't surprise you listeners

[00:08:21] that I was not an athlete.

[00:08:23] I was in debate club and doing things that were not.

[00:08:26] Deadiers rewards.

[00:08:27] Yeah, I guess.

[00:08:28] You're a mind athlete.

[00:08:29] That's a super power, man.

[00:08:30] Mind sex is what I was going to do.

[00:08:32] I was only having sex in my mind.

[00:08:35] I'm suspicious that he's going to make it to your set at some point.

[00:08:38] Maybe.

[00:08:39] There we go.

[00:08:40] You know this guy, Luis, he's got a brother named Luis.

[00:08:43] But the point is baseball players, for example,

[00:08:48] they fail more often than they succeed, right?

[00:08:50] If you've got 300, your whole career,

[00:08:52] you're going to go in the hall of fame.

[00:08:54] Whereas in lawyer, if I told my clients,

[00:08:56] by the way, I fail 70% of the time, hire me.

[00:09:00] That's not a good average.

[00:09:02] Comedy is one of those things that I feel like it's athletic

[00:09:06] in the sense or courageous in the sense that you're going to fail.

[00:09:09] You're going to fail with the same joke.

[00:09:11] One night might succeed.

[00:09:12] It's going to fail the next.

[00:09:13] Some nights you're going to get up.

[00:09:14] You're going to tell 10 jokes and they're all going to fail.

[00:09:16] And you've got to tell the first one, fail.

[00:09:19] Tell the second one is if you're going to hit a home run with it.

[00:09:22] So you get those reps in.

[00:09:24] You tweak a word here or there.

[00:09:26] Or you abandon a joke that's not working.

[00:09:28] And you do have the opportunity to keep going.

[00:09:30] The problem is if you're actually putting content out on the internet

[00:09:34] and assuming it doesn't ever go away,

[00:09:37] your crappy stuff is going to stay out there forever.

[00:09:40] And if your crappy stuff is stuff that could get you in trouble

[00:09:44] or get you canceled or that doesn't age very well,

[00:09:48] there's that problem as well.

[00:09:50] I think it's part of the journey though,

[00:09:52] having the bad stuff.

[00:09:54] Not necessarily the stuff that's going to get you in trouble,

[00:09:56] but your bad material out for people to see as well

[00:10:00] and then experience your journey.

[00:10:01] We talk about it with podcasting,

[00:10:03] which is somebody might find you on your episode 500.

[00:10:08] And then they're going to go back and say,

[00:10:10] let me see how these guys were on their first episode.

[00:10:12] And that can actually serve as motivation for some people

[00:10:15] because they might go in and listen to that first episode

[00:10:17] and say, wow, they were terrible.

[00:10:19] Now they're still kind of bad,

[00:10:21] but they have improved a little bit.

[00:10:23] They're less terrible.

[00:10:25] But now they're willing to give you a chance.

[00:10:27] But I feel like at the same time that helps with relatability.

[00:10:31] People are going to feel a little connected to you.

[00:10:33] I like that idea.

[00:10:34] I think that's right.

[00:10:35] My first ten episodes of the My First Rodeo podcast

[00:10:37] was doing in my living room or my dining room

[00:10:40] without the benefit of your studio.

[00:10:42] So the sound quality is not as good.

[00:10:44] It's a little tinier.

[00:10:45] It's not as well produced.

[00:10:46] But I like to think that folks that are listening

[00:10:49] to the more recent episodes and are inclined to go back,

[00:10:51] they'll be like, oh, it's kind of quiet.

[00:10:53] It was the same model.

[00:10:54] Had some good guests out of the gate.

[00:10:56] But it was a little tinier.

[00:10:58] But it's sweet.

[00:10:59] It's like whatever.

[00:11:00] The Beatles' first albums.

[00:11:02] That was exactly going to be my comparison.

[00:11:05] Me and the Beatles.

[00:11:06] That's what people did.

[00:11:07] I'm the Beatles of the podcast.

[00:11:09] They're not.

[00:11:11] I love it.

[00:11:13] The capture presentation that we did a couple of weeks ago

[00:11:16] in that event, we talked a lot about feedback loops.

[00:11:19] And when you're not presented or you don't see the feedback

[00:11:26] on whatever content we're producing

[00:11:28] or if you put something out there to the world,

[00:11:31] it's hard to improve at the end of the day.

[00:11:34] Because you're probably from the inside out.

[00:11:36] So it's very important that we go see what's

[00:11:39] the good content doing?

[00:11:40] What's the background?

[00:11:41] Sometimes we put an episode out that we think

[00:11:43] we did the worst.

[00:11:45] This might not be a thing.

[00:11:46] And we get surprised that people react in a very positive way.

[00:11:49] So we're like, why did they react that way?

[00:11:51] And then you start digging and you start learning things.

[00:11:53] So for content specifically, a podcast feedback loop

[00:11:57] can take a couple of days.

[00:11:58] For a short, it can take maybe minutes or hours

[00:12:01] depending on how the platform presents it.

[00:12:03] Now when you're in the courtroom

[00:12:06] or even in a comedy show,

[00:12:08] you get feedback loops immediately in a sense.

[00:12:11] And to me, I always imagine being in that spot in a way,

[00:12:18] especially on the comedy side.

[00:12:20] It's like, wow, you say this thing that you expect people

[00:12:22] to go and laugh and have a reaction

[00:12:24] and then people don't.

[00:12:25] And there's 200 people in front of you

[00:12:27] or 20 people or 10 people, whatever it is.

[00:12:30] So mentally, how do you deal with that?

[00:12:33] Do you block yourself from that

[00:12:35] or how do you receive that feedback?

[00:12:37] Do you adapt immediately?

[00:12:38] Like what are some things?

[00:12:39] Because obviously that's a very extreme case

[00:12:41] because you're on a stage in person.

[00:12:44] But maybe there's a framework that we can extract from there

[00:12:47] for people that are publishing,

[00:12:49] maybe they're real, their content, their original ideas

[00:12:51] that they put out to the world,

[00:12:53] whether it's a business stuff or passion.

[00:12:55] How do you deal with that in the comedy side

[00:12:59] and then also in the courtroom?

[00:13:01] Are they different? Is it the same thing?

[00:13:03] There's certainly differences,

[00:13:05] but at its core it's being aware of your audience

[00:13:08] and then also being self-aware but not self-obsessed.

[00:13:13] So you have to know how you're being perceived

[00:13:16] and what you're trying to achieve.

[00:13:19] You have to have a sense of how your audiences are reacting

[00:13:22] in the courtroom.

[00:13:23] It could be a judge, it could be a jury,

[00:13:25] it could be your client, it could be the media.

[00:13:28] In a comedy club obviously you pretty much have the audience

[00:13:31] but you also have to see yourself

[00:13:34] how you're being perceived by them.

[00:13:37] But you could take that too far, right?

[00:13:39] If you're constantly fixing your hair

[00:13:41] or tucking in your shirt or fixing your tie

[00:13:44] or it leads you to stutter

[00:13:46] or have some sort of a nervous tick

[00:13:49] then it goes too far.

[00:13:51] You just have to be conscious with comedy.

[00:13:53] Of course you want to record it a lot

[00:13:55] not necessarily to preserve it

[00:13:57] but just to listen to it right afterwards

[00:13:59] and a lot of times you'll get back and you realize,

[00:14:01] oh I said the wrong word there.

[00:14:03] No wonder they didn't laugh.

[00:14:05] I was supposed to say not before that

[00:14:07] and I didn't say not.

[00:14:09] They heard the exact opposite

[00:14:11] whereas you're thinking you're killing it.

[00:14:13] Just being aware of comedy is kind of fun

[00:14:15] because if I'm opening up for a national headline

[00:14:18] or say at the comedy zone

[00:14:20] I'll do five shows in three days.

[00:14:23] So maybe a show Thursday, two shows Friday,

[00:14:26] two shows Saturday

[00:14:28] that's a real treat because you get to do your set

[00:14:31] and then watch the headliner come up

[00:14:33] and then you get another off-fresh audience

[00:14:35] and you come back and you do the same jokes generally.

[00:14:38] But you say, well what didn't work last time

[00:14:40] when you really get a chance to try it out again?

[00:14:43] In a courtroom obviously

[00:14:45] you don't generally get a second chance

[00:14:48] but you do have to be aware of all those audiences.

[00:14:53] You have to be respectful of the process.

[00:14:55] There's a lot of rules to work with in a courtroom

[00:14:58] and you like to think that

[00:15:01] it's not a popularity contest there.

[00:15:03] It's more about the facts and the law

[00:15:06] but the truth is a great lawyer

[00:15:09] or a relatable lawyer can really win a jury

[00:15:12] or a fact finder over, especially in gray areas

[00:15:15] where the truth maybe is unclear

[00:15:17] and a really bad lawyer

[00:15:19] or someone that has no people skills

[00:15:21] can lose even a good case.

[00:15:24] So it's knowing your audience

[00:15:26] and then knowing yourself

[00:15:28] and adding those two together in the right circumstances.

[00:15:30] Every lawyer is not right for every case

[00:15:32] and every comedian is not right for every audience

[00:15:34] or every comedy club.

[00:15:36] I'm mostly a clean comic

[00:15:38] so there's going to be certain audiences

[00:15:40] that will like that and then other audiences

[00:15:42] where I probably shouldn't be there.

[00:15:44] It's just not the right audience for me.

[00:15:46] By the way, I was looking at your reels right now.

[00:15:48] I like your bid on the door dash.

[00:15:50] That was funny.

[00:15:52] I was like, oh, door dash.

[00:15:54] People's food marinating in their cars.

[00:15:56] You don't really know what there's inside.

[00:15:58] It's like, oh yeah, that is true.

[00:16:00] Never door dashing again.

[00:16:02] I was inspired by my mom who said she was going to use door dash

[00:16:04] to avoid the germs in a restaurant.

[00:16:06] I was like, mom, have you ever seen the inside of a door dash driver's car?

[00:16:08] That's good for you.

[00:16:10] Yeah, definitely.

[00:16:12] Definitely got me thinking, you know, which is pretty good.

[00:16:14] I'm curious, do you tell jokes in the courtroom?

[00:16:16] You know, more than I should.

[00:16:18] I mean, I'm sarcastic

[00:16:20] by nature, which is a great thing

[00:16:22] to have in circumstances where it's valued.

[00:16:24] And it's a really obnoxious thing to have

[00:16:26] as my ex-wife told me

[00:16:28] in circumstances where it's not valued.

[00:16:30] She didn't get sarcasm, didn't like sarcasm.

[00:16:32] She's immigrant and I don't know,

[00:16:34] just didn't translate well.

[00:16:36] And she didn't like me, so that probably didn't help either.

[00:16:38] But among the things she didn't like about me,

[00:16:40] she did not like my sarcasm.

[00:16:42] You know, courtroom at work sometimes.

[00:16:44] In a jury selection, this huge group of people

[00:16:46] who are not really interested in the court,

[00:16:48] you know, like in a jury selection,

[00:16:50] you know, this huge group of people come in.

[00:16:52] It's tense, it's uncomfortable, they don't want to be there.

[00:16:54] So I like to think if you could just do something

[00:16:56] a little human.

[00:16:58] I mean, I had a jury to pick not too, too long ago

[00:17:00] and, you know, they say

[00:17:02] you're supposed to ask a question of each potential juror

[00:17:04] so you don't make any of them feel left out.

[00:17:06] And I had gotten to the last one,

[00:17:08] I only had a little bit of time left

[00:17:10] and whatever her number was, juror number 21.

[00:17:12] She saw on her questionnaire, she was a hairdresser

[00:17:14] and I said, juror number 21,

[00:17:16] I'm supposed to ask everybody a question.

[00:17:18] What do you think of my hair?

[00:17:20] She laughed and everybody laughed

[00:17:22] and I'm bawled for your listeners

[00:17:24] that aren't looking at me, so it was, you know, funny.

[00:17:26] And sometimes they can think you're obnoxious

[00:17:28] and you don't know,

[00:17:30] I've just met these people for the first time

[00:17:32] and they are not expecting sarcasm.

[00:17:34] So if they value that,

[00:17:36] they have won them over in a minute

[00:17:38] and if they hate sarcasm

[00:17:40] and don't like being, you know,

[00:17:42] they can feel like you're being a victim

[00:17:44] of being, you know, they can feel like you're being made fun of, right?

[00:17:46] Yeah, yeah, absolutely.

[00:17:48] But there's a lesson in there, you know,

[00:17:50] especially when we're talking in the context

[00:17:52] of content which is

[00:17:54] you're gonna be in people's feeds

[00:17:56] that are getting to know you for the very first time

[00:17:58] and your content might not be for them

[00:18:00] and then I see on they say

[00:18:02] who's this obnoxious guy, right?

[00:18:04] Or what does this guy know about podcasting?

[00:18:06] I don't want to listen to this guy

[00:18:08] and they just slide right and they go to the next one

[00:18:10] and I think a lot of people get

[00:18:12] stuck in their heads thinking

[00:18:14] what if people have all these negative thoughts

[00:18:16] when I publish my content, right?

[00:18:18] And that stops them in their track from taking action.

[00:18:20] It's the same thing that you're just mentioning.

[00:18:22] What is this? I mean, with comedy

[00:18:24] you probably get so much judgment

[00:18:26] and you know, some people laugh, some people not laugh,

[00:18:28] whatever it is part of, you know,

[00:18:30] the deal rather and the same is with content

[00:18:32] having that mindset.

[00:18:34] I remember maybe it was

[00:18:36] like a month ago or so

[00:18:38] we really got a very heated

[00:18:40] like review on the show, right?

[00:18:42] And you know,

[00:18:44] for people to review podcasts

[00:18:46] it's not as easy as pressing one button, right?

[00:18:48] You have to go into the platform, you have to click this

[00:18:50] and there's like several step process, right?

[00:18:52] They had to really hate you.

[00:18:54] I know, Miss Karen.

[00:18:56] I can't remember her name now

[00:18:58] but it was like a very detailed...

[00:19:00] I'm gonna say it was mostly towards him.

[00:19:02] Right. They said Luis

[00:19:04] so I know what's going on.

[00:19:06] I didn't say posy.

[00:19:08] He's definitely justified whatever the comment was.

[00:19:10] Yeah, and I

[00:19:12] own an episode of like the lessons

[00:19:14] from that because it's super

[00:19:16] interesting like that deters a lot of people.

[00:19:18] It got me heated not because of the comments

[00:19:20] because we don't care, like we've done this for a long time

[00:19:22] but something like that

[00:19:24] my... wow, Fonzie.

[00:19:26] Can you make more noise with that cookie?

[00:19:28] I just put the paper and write in the microphone.

[00:19:30] You said we were gonna fight over the cookie

[00:19:32] and now while you're

[00:19:34] there with the cookie I can't do anything about it.

[00:19:36] Wow. You're not sharing?

[00:19:38] I thought I heard it was like...

[00:19:40] We can eat the crumbs head of his beard.

[00:19:42] That's on you, my dear.

[00:19:44] All of you, my man.

[00:19:46] No, go in there.

[00:19:48] This lady didn't like you.

[00:19:50] Yeah, so for a lot of people

[00:19:52] that's a big fear.

[00:19:54] I'm gonna put my message out there

[00:19:56] and then there's gonna be these random people

[00:19:58] I don't know who they are.

[00:20:00] We call them keyboard warriors

[00:20:02] because they're so brave behind it

[00:20:04] and at the same time the comments that she was saying

[00:20:06] was, hey, like the host

[00:20:08] where they were also sharing too much of their story

[00:20:10] they were sharing too much about them

[00:20:12] and I think it was an amazing

[00:20:14] investor that came that day to the interview

[00:20:16] and we're going back and forth, right?

[00:20:18] Right.

[00:20:20] And then to the point that we're just sharing

[00:20:22] part of her journey is that we're also sharing

[00:20:24] our story here for a lot of people to learn

[00:20:26] from our mistakes and the things that we've done

[00:20:28] so it's not an interview, it's really a conversation

[00:20:30] that we're having. So that's why I was at peace

[00:20:32] and as I saw that, I just started laughing

[00:20:34] and I was like, well this is actually a great lesson

[00:20:36] and we should talk about this stuff.

[00:20:38] So I want to encourage every creator out there

[00:20:40] that is also your story, your message

[00:20:42] and the people on the other side might not

[00:20:44] have the full background

[00:20:46] on what you're doing, right?

[00:20:48] They might be just seeing the tip of the iceberg

[00:20:50] and we're talking about clips earlier

[00:20:52] about these comedians

[00:20:54] that might be like a bit or something

[00:20:56] that they do on social

[00:20:58] and that helps them move forward

[00:21:00] in their careers, but they're also

[00:21:02] working on their craft for so many years

[00:21:04] at the same time

[00:21:06] and then it's like, okay how do we maximize that

[00:21:08] little iceberg moment that we can have

[00:21:10] on social or content or whatever

[00:21:12] to them move forward, but

[00:21:14] so...

[00:21:16] And it's a fair observation, I was just thinking about

[00:21:18] your listener who made that comment

[00:21:20] because you went different things out of different podcasts

[00:21:22] like I listened to WTF with Mark Barron

[00:21:24] one of the first podcasts really out there

[00:21:26] and when I started listening to

[00:21:28] he's very self-indulgent

[00:21:30] but it's his followers

[00:21:32] I'm one of them

[00:21:34] and so if he's interviewing

[00:21:36] whatever, President Obama or Ben Kingsley

[00:21:38] I still want to hear

[00:21:40] his story in the midst of their story

[00:21:42] but then I listened to SmartLess

[00:21:44] with three other celebrities

[00:21:46] interviewing one celebrity

[00:21:48] I feel like just my

[00:21:50] particular taste they tend to overpower

[00:21:52] the guests because they've all got their stories

[00:21:54] there's three of them which is probably

[00:21:56] a lot of hosts

[00:21:58] but it's not wrong or right

[00:22:00] each of those podcasts are very successful

[00:22:02] and I've went different things out of each of them

[00:22:04] Yeah, definitely

[00:22:06] That's probably every

[00:22:08] Cuckoo? Yeah, destroy the thing

[00:22:10] It was so good if we...

[00:22:12] Shout out to my girlfriend

[00:22:14] I love you

[00:22:16] Clip this part on Senator

[00:22:18] You were talking about

[00:22:20] I thought of Forgana with the Cuckoo stuff

[00:22:22] The negative lady

[00:22:24] The negative lady

[00:22:26] I had a comment on the tip of my tongue

[00:22:28] You swallowed it with the cookie

[00:22:30] No, no, no, for the cookie

[00:22:32] We agree or disagree

[00:22:34] Oh, I remember now you were talking about

[00:22:36] the different podcasts, different hosts

[00:22:38] different type of shows

[00:22:40] personality

[00:22:42] more with a certain type of personality

[00:22:44] than other ones

[00:22:46] Something that we've noticed in this show

[00:22:48] is some comedians come out

[00:22:50] flashing and loud

[00:22:52] and they have this sort of personality

[00:22:54] and then some other ones that just come in

[00:22:56] and they're like low energy

[00:22:58] you know, like

[00:23:00] and they're hilarious as well

[00:23:02] Sure, and you can kind of

[00:23:04] even hear different parts of the crowd

[00:23:06] laughing, it's like, oh this person

[00:23:08] appeals more to this group of people

[00:23:10] and this other person appeals more to this other group

[00:23:12] of people and I find that interesting because

[00:23:14] as we move on

[00:23:16] this content world one of the things that

[00:23:18] I feel we're more convinced every single time

[00:23:20] is the value of personality

[00:23:22] like the person behind the microphone

[00:23:24] the person that is sharing the stories

[00:23:28] their personality is going to attract

[00:23:30] a certain amount of people

[00:23:32] and a certain type of people

[00:23:34] and sadly there's also

[00:23:36] some people that have no personality at all

[00:23:38] they go in there and they're like, oh my gosh

[00:23:40] we call them pancin sal

[00:23:42] bread without salt

[00:23:44] Well cin sal

[00:23:46] No, pancin sal

[00:23:48] Well, I don't know

[00:23:50] Maybe I don't even know my own country sayings

[00:23:52] I didn't even know they were salt and bread

[00:23:54] I don't know

[00:23:56] Why are you eating pancin?

[00:23:58] I don't have been eating too much

[00:24:00] All about food

[00:24:02] But I did want to

[00:24:04] change a little bit the topic

[00:24:06] not still kind of like our own comedy

[00:24:08] but previously you

[00:24:10] talked about reflecting on

[00:24:12] your own set

[00:24:14] and I think that's one of the

[00:24:16] mistakes people that produce

[00:24:18] content don't really do

[00:24:20] which is going back and listening to their own stuff

[00:24:22] and then saying, wow

[00:24:24] I have these behaviors during the

[00:24:26] podcast that I do

[00:24:28] or X, Y and C that I could improve

[00:24:30] maybe I'm not starting with the right hook

[00:24:32] what about next time I start with the right hook

[00:24:34] I think that's an incredible skill

[00:24:36] What are some things

[00:24:38] maybe as a comedian or even

[00:24:40] you're a content creator, you're a podcaster

[00:24:42] what are some of the ways that you

[00:24:44] look into previously

[00:24:46] done things to improve

[00:24:48] One real obvious one

[00:24:50] and I've noticed this more than anything on podcasts

[00:24:52] hopefully I'm not doing it here

[00:24:54] is the use of ums and us

[00:24:56] you never hear yourself

[00:24:58] doing them when you're

[00:25:00] speaking first time

[00:25:02] and you go back and listen

[00:25:04] we all tolerate a certain amount of that from each other

[00:25:06] it can even be a little charming

[00:25:08] depending on who the person is

[00:25:10] if you're rubbing fingers

[00:25:12] and styles

[00:25:14] swirling your mustache

[00:25:16] but that's a good one that you really don't notice

[00:25:18] you're doing it excessively

[00:25:20] until you listen to it

[00:25:22] it's hard to control

[00:25:24] as I just did

[00:25:26] so that's one

[00:25:28] talking over guests is

[00:25:30] certainly something that you can miss

[00:25:32] and again that can be fun

[00:25:34] and conversational

[00:25:36] or it can be just annoying

[00:25:38] if you're literally not getting

[00:25:40] the right word

[00:25:42] you can get comments out

[00:25:44] sometimes you listen

[00:25:46] and either I'll notice it or someone else will notice

[00:25:48] but if you would have shut up there

[00:25:50] he or she was just about to say something really cool

[00:25:52] and you offered your own example

[00:25:54] and lost that opportunity

[00:25:56] so those are the kind of nuances

[00:25:58] that in real time I tend to miss

[00:26:00] comedy

[00:26:02] it's a matter of did I say the right word

[00:26:04] sometimes the most beautiful things happen

[00:26:06] because again comedy

[00:26:08] is something that you can't do

[00:26:10] and so you'll tell the joke in a particular way

[00:26:12] but for whatever reason

[00:26:14] something magical happens that night

[00:26:16] where you throw in something different

[00:26:18] or someone from the audience says something

[00:26:20] and you play off of it

[00:26:22] and it just gets a lot funnier

[00:26:24] and then you try to capture that lightning

[00:26:26] in a bottle and use it again

[00:26:28] I think that's where the most

[00:26:30] positive developments can come out of comedy

[00:26:32] definitely the magic sex sections

[00:26:34] that's probably going to be something moving forward

[00:26:36] you can find those in our OnlyFans

[00:26:40] it's the other Louise

[00:26:42] I had a great idea because we have a story

[00:26:44] with the OMS

[00:26:46] when I first came to college

[00:26:48] at this point I'm saturated with that story

[00:26:50] but you know share the story

[00:26:52] there might be some new people that don't know

[00:26:54] but I'll do it fast

[00:26:56] first class is speaking

[00:26:58] in UNF

[00:27:00] and we had about 30 people in the room

[00:27:02] and they're like hey prepare a 3 minute presentation

[00:27:04] so I'm like oh this is easy

[00:27:06] I'm going to talk about Venezuela

[00:27:08] so I just put a slide with a bunch of pictures

[00:27:10] and I was going to talk about each of the pictures

[00:27:12] not write anything

[00:27:14] I was just going off the cuff from the picture

[00:27:16] that was there

[00:27:18] so I was one of the last ones

[00:27:20] and the professor had an um counter

[00:27:22] sitting next to her

[00:27:24] and anyways

[00:27:26] people were like 10 OMS

[00:27:28] 15 OMS, 5 OMS

[00:27:30] and everybody's like oh you know

[00:27:32] it was like 20

[00:27:34] so I go on and I do my thing

[00:27:36] and in my head I'm like wow this is great

[00:27:38] it's flowing amazing

[00:27:40] this is now what

[00:27:42] this is like 11 years ago

[00:27:44] um

[00:27:46] and uh finish the presentation

[00:27:48] and I noticed the professor

[00:27:50] engaged on it

[00:27:52] so as I'm talking

[00:27:54] she's engaged, the students are engaged

[00:27:56] so I'm like this is going great

[00:27:58] anyways she asked the person next to her

[00:28:00] how many OMS

[00:28:02] he just looks at the person

[00:28:04] and we're both like

[00:28:06] what?

[00:28:08] that's not true

[00:28:10] she's like I got him here, like the sheet full of little dots

[00:28:12] right

[00:28:14] and there was a lesson

[00:28:16] at the end of the day for me the lesson was

[00:28:18] that's not going to stop me from saying the thing

[00:28:20] because I was being engaging in different ways

[00:28:22] but at the same time great feedback

[00:28:24] to be able to do it

[00:28:26] so I wrote here, new contest

[00:28:28] for those listening, new contest

[00:28:30] count our OMS

[00:28:32] I already found it, I started

[00:28:34] like 2 seconds ago

[00:28:36] you got 2 OMS so far

[00:28:38] and if it's for the full episode

[00:28:40] I didn't count those

[00:28:42] I didn't count the ones where he mentioned

[00:28:44] I have to don't say

[00:28:46] I was like alright I'll excuse that one

[00:28:48] it's quite

[00:28:50] but then send us

[00:28:52] your number on social media

[00:28:54] or an email whatever right at the bottom

[00:28:56] of the notes and if it's as close as possible

[00:28:58] we'll have a price for you

[00:29:00] you will get the voice of Luis saying um

[00:29:02] on your answering machine

[00:29:04] that's right, maybe we'll do something a little more fun

[00:29:06] this is Luis

[00:29:08] he came to the phone

[00:29:10] but one of the things like obviously I've been

[00:29:12] more aware of that

[00:29:14] and it helps you improve

[00:29:16] to me I also speak very fast

[00:29:18] a lot of people say me

[00:29:20] they say to me

[00:29:22] and

[00:29:24] I've been trying to

[00:29:26] make it a little bit slower

[00:29:28] doesn't work most of the time but it's okay

[00:29:30] what's that balance for you like how do you find the balance

[00:29:32] do you lean into

[00:29:34] fully you

[00:29:36] or do you listen and grow from that

[00:29:38] and adapt right?

[00:29:40] yeah I think that's right in comedy

[00:29:42] it's important to let jokes breathe as well

[00:29:44] and if you're nervous or if the first couple

[00:29:46] jokes bum a lot of times

[00:29:48] I'll start rushing

[00:29:50] but I notice if you just wait a little bit

[00:29:52] for the bigger room I mean if it's a

[00:29:54] you know a theater

[00:29:56] you need to wait for the laughs

[00:29:58] to come from the back of the room to the front

[00:30:00] so you really do have to find something to do

[00:30:02] whether it's fidgeting

[00:30:04] or looking like you're fidgeting

[00:30:06] or drinking water or something

[00:30:08] to give everybody equal chance to hear the joke

[00:30:10] react to the joke

[00:30:12] but if you just rush in a lot of times

[00:30:14] you'll not give the audience a chance

[00:30:16] you know sometimes I try to tell intellectual jokes

[00:30:18] sometimes they take

[00:30:20] it takes a lot of courage to put

[00:30:22] silence there

[00:30:24] because if nothing comes it's really really

[00:30:26] painful

[00:30:28] but sometimes you pause

[00:30:30] just it feels like

[00:30:32] five minutes but it's probably a half a second

[00:30:34] and that's just enough time for the audience

[00:30:36] like somebody laughs

[00:30:38] and then somebody else laughs about that laughing

[00:30:40] and all of a sudden the entire audience is laughing

[00:30:42] whereas if you just rush to the next joke

[00:30:44] you know afterwards somebody might say

[00:30:46] that was a really funny joke he told

[00:30:48] and you laugh

[00:30:50] yeah I don't know

[00:30:52] that they know that but I know that that's one of the things

[00:30:54] I need to work more on is pausing

[00:30:56] I started telling jokes

[00:30:58] or at least I was getting busy with it

[00:31:00] just when the pandemic hit

[00:31:02] so for about a year and a half comedy clubs were closed

[00:31:04] nobody was going out

[00:31:06] and there were zoom comedy

[00:31:08] shows which were horribly

[00:31:10] painful and anybody

[00:31:12] that had been doing it

[00:31:14] for a while just said no I'm not doing

[00:31:16] zoom comedy

[00:31:18] I wasn't smart enough to say no so I did it

[00:31:20] and I think I grew a lot as a comedian then

[00:31:22] because basically you were getting no reaction

[00:31:24] most people had their microphones off

[00:31:26] sometimes it was a full room of people on zoom

[00:31:28] you kind of looked to see if they were laughing

[00:31:30] but for the most part

[00:31:32] you just sort of got your timing down

[00:31:34] as if they were people laughing

[00:31:36] and I think when I came out of that

[00:31:38] I came out a little stronger

[00:31:40] certainly stronger than if I had just done no comedy

[00:31:42] for a year and a half

[00:31:44] very very interesting

[00:31:46] we actually had a guest previously

[00:31:48] on this topic of the past

[00:31:50] we had a guest previously that he mentioned

[00:31:52] the importance of embracing those

[00:31:54] silences

[00:31:56] and that you could actually identify

[00:31:58] moments on the guest

[00:32:00] where

[00:32:02] you could potentially keep digging

[00:32:04] or they would give you micro signals

[00:32:06] that would allow you to

[00:32:08] identify this is a good

[00:32:10] spot that we can dive into

[00:32:12] where most people just keep talking

[00:32:14] and then they don't give them a chance

[00:32:16] to kind of like fully

[00:32:18] let the information sink in

[00:32:20] and then be able to continue

[00:32:22] down that thread which is absolutely

[00:32:24] important and the other thing

[00:32:26] real quick before handing you the mic

[00:32:28] was that I've been listening

[00:32:30] to Tony Robbins lately

[00:32:32] I'm trying to do the mindsets

[00:32:34] so he was saying communication is 7%

[00:32:36] what you say

[00:32:38] 38% tonality and 55%

[00:32:40] body language

[00:32:42] I would argue that in comedy

[00:32:44] is more than 7% what you say

[00:32:46] definitely very important

[00:32:48] overall the tonality

[00:32:50] the body language we talked about that

[00:32:52] and I think part of it is

[00:32:54] embracing those silences

[00:32:56] be able, be comfortable

[00:32:58] your body language, be present

[00:33:00] that when you know you have to take a pause

[00:33:02] let's say you're talking about something sad

[00:33:04] or you're making a joke about something sad

[00:33:06] and you need a little bit of attention to build up

[00:33:08] it's good to take that pause

[00:33:10] but I feel like most people are

[00:33:12] maybe not as comfortable

[00:33:14] or just thinking way too ahead

[00:33:16] or thinking what are other people going to think

[00:33:18] if I let them wait

[00:33:20] for my next sentence

[00:33:22] that they just rush and they start talking way too fast

[00:33:24] no, it's very true

[00:33:26] I think preparation is such an important thing

[00:33:28] but you can over prepare

[00:33:30] and obviously if you've written out every word

[00:33:32] and you're just reading it

[00:33:34] we've all seen those commencement speeches

[00:33:36] in lawyering

[00:33:38] say I'm cross examining someone

[00:33:40] in a deposition

[00:33:42] you could definitely use pauses to get more

[00:33:44] if I ask you a question

[00:33:46] in a deposition and say it's being videotaped

[00:33:48] or not

[00:33:50] but after I ask it, you give an answer

[00:33:52] yes, no, and then I lean in

[00:33:54] or just keep making eye contact with you

[00:33:56] average person is going to think

[00:33:58] they're supposed to say something else

[00:34:00] if you're a bad ass that can't be stared down

[00:34:02] maybe not

[00:34:04] and you answer something

[00:34:06] and I just go like that

[00:34:08] sometimes you're going to give more

[00:34:10] and that's a useful tool

[00:34:12] I'm going to start doing that in online interviews

[00:34:14] as a question then

[00:34:16] just be like

[00:34:18] stare them down

[00:34:20] Fonzie, why are you looking at me that way?

[00:34:22] what's wrong with you?

[00:34:24] you do a little winky winky winky

[00:34:26] you do an eyebrow raise

[00:34:28] Fonzie, control yourself

[00:34:30] why is Fonzie flirting with all the gas

[00:34:32] I know, we start getting in love with that

[00:34:34] Mike told me to do this, Mike just told me to lean in

[00:34:36] I can't believe you fell for that

[00:34:38] our audience starts switching

[00:34:40] he just sent me up for the rest of my podcasting career

[00:34:42] our audience starts switching genders

[00:34:44] we're like what is happening

[00:34:46] anyways whatever

[00:34:48] I'll call you um and win

[00:34:50] alright, I'm going to make a quick part

[00:34:52] this is here, I made a note here

[00:34:54] that said I'm going to start a counter for your alms

[00:34:56] and a counter for your bad jokes

[00:34:58] that's number one

[00:35:00] we're 35 minutes in

[00:35:02] going back to the silence

[00:35:04] I remember seeing an interview with Elon Musk

[00:35:06] and he was being asked a question

[00:35:08] and he will just take his time

[00:35:10] breathe

[00:35:12] think and then answer

[00:35:14] right

[00:35:16] and I think that super valuable skill for any person

[00:35:18] that's in a conversation

[00:35:20] in a podcast

[00:35:22] and it was super impactful

[00:35:24] because I recognized that I was rushing

[00:35:26] a lot into answering different things

[00:35:28] we might not have the right answer

[00:35:30] or we might have to think a little bit on the context

[00:35:32] of the elements

[00:35:34] to actually

[00:35:36] give a good answer

[00:35:38] and that was so impactful to me

[00:35:40] it was a very small detail

[00:35:42] you know the power of the silence after you say something

[00:35:44] but also before

[00:35:46] you say something

[00:35:48] so that's the highlight

[00:35:50] I highly recommend watch Elon's interviews

[00:35:52] because he does it a lot

[00:35:54] I'm just going to say this real quick

[00:35:56] I've told him

[00:35:58] hey what about we

[00:36:00] look into the arms and the eyes

[00:36:02] and all these things

[00:36:04] but it had to be Elon Musk

[00:36:06] the one that comes through

[00:36:08] and takes all credit

[00:36:10] I know you were talking about the pause

[00:36:12] and the thinking

[00:36:14] I'm just putting on packaging

[00:36:16] all of that into the arms and arms

[00:36:18] just two arms by the way

[00:36:20] and then the example with tonality as well

[00:36:22] is so important

[00:36:24] I think this is the first time I hear from you

[00:36:26] on that side

[00:36:28] but it happens a lot with now my kids

[00:36:30] right you have five kids

[00:36:32] so lots of lessons to be learned there

[00:36:34] for us

[00:36:36] but with Luca

[00:36:38] my oldest sometimes

[00:36:40] I call him with a certain tone

[00:36:42] and he almost runs away

[00:36:44] in a sense or maybe he did something that he was not supposed to do

[00:36:46] and I do that

[00:36:48] and then immediately I catch myself

[00:36:50] and I change the tone, same word

[00:36:52] I'm like look buddy I'm not mad at you

[00:36:54] let's talk about this whatever right

[00:36:56] and it's so interesting

[00:36:58] and then with my wife

[00:37:00] my wife is one of those people

[00:37:02] I love dearly but she has no filter

[00:37:04] on what she says

[00:37:06] like her already

[00:37:08] and it's not the things that she says also

[00:37:10] she has no filter on the tone I started to recognize

[00:37:12] and I bring it up to her

[00:37:14] and be like you said it this way

[00:37:16] and she's hurting my feelings

[00:37:18] it happens often

[00:37:20] it's incredible

[00:37:22] how I've been practicing awareness

[00:37:24] on that side of things

[00:37:26] because words matter and now tonality matters as well

[00:37:28] and if we're communicators

[00:37:30] we're putting our message out to the world

[00:37:32] how we say it matters as much

[00:37:34] because it will carry emotion

[00:37:36] two thoughts on that

[00:37:38] and neither of them are original thoughts

[00:37:40] but I think they're really important

[00:37:42] they've certainly been impactful to me

[00:37:44] one is we tend

[00:37:46] and this isn't just about broadcasting

[00:37:48] I tend to listen

[00:37:50] to respond

[00:37:52] instead of listening to understand

[00:37:54] and when you change that paradigm

[00:37:56] when you listen to understand

[00:37:58] obviously if you're interviewing me

[00:38:00] at some point I'm going to respond

[00:38:02] horrible interview if I didn't

[00:38:04] but the most important thing is that I understand what you're saying

[00:38:06] I understand why you're saying it

[00:38:08] and sure if there's a response

[00:38:10] that's required then

[00:38:12] ultimately I respond

[00:38:14] but the old

[00:38:16] the old adage that you've got two ears

[00:38:18] in one mouth because you're supposed to listen

[00:38:20] twice as much as you speak

[00:38:22] so I think that's an important one

[00:38:24] the other one that you made me think about with your son

[00:38:26] and it actually came up with my son

[00:38:28] he didn't say it this way

[00:38:30] but I remember years and years ago

[00:38:32] he's 26 now

[00:38:34] but when he was probably about 11 or 12

[00:38:36] I was telling him something

[00:38:38] we went to bed the next morning

[00:38:40] we woke up and I was like Anthony

[00:38:42] I was disappointed in how you handled that situation

[00:38:44] you weren't being nice to your sister

[00:38:46] and he said you know you're right

[00:38:48] but I just

[00:38:50] didn't feel like you were listening to me

[00:38:52] I know you were right but I didn't feel like I was listening to

[00:38:54] and that reminded me

[00:38:56] of the expression that people don't remember

[00:38:58] what you said

[00:39:00] they remember how what you said made them feel

[00:39:02] and that's how your son

[00:39:04] was responding, that's how my son responds

[00:39:06] and yeah I'm sure

[00:39:08] I'll never say anything in my entire life

[00:39:10] that's worth remembering

[00:39:12] but I am making people

[00:39:14] feel a certain way whether it's my kids

[00:39:16] whether it's you know life

[00:39:18] girlfriend, you know friends, you guys

[00:39:20] that's going to be more important

[00:39:22] because that's how you think about me

[00:39:24] and maybe even how you think about yourself

[00:39:26] so lots of lessons there

[00:39:28] absolutely, I love that phrase

[00:39:30] people don't remember what you say

[00:39:32] but how what you said made them feel

[00:39:34] there are so many times

[00:39:36] where I'm sharing the excitement

[00:39:38] of events that we've been to

[00:39:40] it's like whoa we went

[00:39:42] to click funnels and we watched Tony

[00:39:44] Robin's live, what an experience

[00:39:46] and the people I'm talking to ask me

[00:39:48] oh so how did he go, what did you learn

[00:39:50] actually I don't remember anything that he said

[00:39:52] but the emotions were so high

[00:39:54] I was crying on that thing

[00:39:56] it was absolutely amazing

[00:39:58] right and is that power

[00:40:00] of emotions, actually emotions

[00:40:02] are the ones that get ingrained in your memory

[00:40:04] which I think it talks on another

[00:40:06] aspect of content and probably

[00:40:08] comedy as well, right I mean comedy

[00:40:10] you're driving this, emotions

[00:40:12] I think it could be a roller coaster

[00:40:14] right but on the content

[00:40:16] side as well how are your stories

[00:40:18] driving emotions, if your content

[00:40:20] is just all straight

[00:40:22] factual it might have

[00:40:24] very you know a coefficient

[00:40:26] emotional coefficient very low

[00:40:28] but the more stories you add

[00:40:30] in there maybe you know

[00:40:32] your tonality, your body language

[00:40:34] that can increase

[00:40:36] that emotional aspect on your content

[00:40:38] which is gonna you know help the listener

[00:40:40] remember you

[00:40:42] a little bit better and I think it's again the same

[00:40:44] with content, fun story actually

[00:40:46] the way I discovered

[00:40:48] Kill Tony was

[00:40:50] I was watching a poker video some

[00:40:52] guy that he is

[00:40:54] super spiritual, he's super odd

[00:40:56] cause he gambles right for a living

[00:40:58] playing poker but he is super spiritual

[00:41:00] so he moved to Bali

[00:41:02] but he said the only TV

[00:41:04] show that I watched with my wife

[00:41:06] is Kill Tony and he said

[00:41:08] there's something spiritual

[00:41:10] about comedy, it's like

[00:41:12] you see people stepping in stage

[00:41:14] with all their problems

[00:41:16] and they you know share their stories

[00:41:18] as hard as they've been

[00:41:20] you know they obviously they're trying to

[00:41:22] get a laugh from the crowd

[00:41:24] but they're putting themselves

[00:41:26] fully out there for the world to see

[00:41:28] and now relating that back

[00:41:30] to emotion once I started seeing Kill Tony

[00:41:32] obviously the main purpose was

[00:41:34] I wanted a laugh, I wanted comedy

[00:41:36] but some of the

[00:41:38] comedy that comes out the story that these

[00:41:40] people share and

[00:41:42] one of the things that Tony asked him is

[00:41:44] is the story that you're sharing is true

[00:41:46] like it's this joke real

[00:41:48] yeah and a lot of them

[00:41:50] say yeah like this actually happened to me

[00:41:52] I'm mind blown I'm like wow

[00:41:54] the level

[00:41:56] you know how open

[00:41:58] are they, the level of vulnerability

[00:42:00] that they have to share this

[00:42:02] with the audience is absolutely

[00:42:04] amazing and usually those

[00:42:06] again I might not remember the joke exactly

[00:42:08] but those are the ones that I'm like wow

[00:42:10] those were some good

[00:42:12] comedians that stepped up in there

[00:42:14] the same with content right, the people that make you

[00:42:16] feel something with their content

[00:42:18] those were some good

[00:42:20] pieces of content. I think you have great stories

[00:42:22] for your set

[00:42:24] for my set

[00:42:26] one involves tea

[00:42:28] I don't know

[00:42:30] that's a start

[00:42:32] experience

[00:42:34] I'll think of that one

[00:42:36] why does he knows that one so

[00:42:38] he knows everything

[00:42:40] I might

[00:42:42] start with something more lighthearted

[00:42:44] for that, I don't even know if I'll do

[00:42:46] that you lost so

[00:42:48] you are walking on the open mic

[00:42:50] I think you should both come

[00:42:52] it's a challenge we might accept it

[00:42:54] I might need some tips

[00:42:56] on how do I ride a good joke

[00:42:58] let's go with that, how does somebody ride

[00:43:00] a good joke? Well you already touched on one

[00:43:02] it's got to be authentic

[00:43:04] there's some exceptions to that rule

[00:43:06] if it's just a word play or something like that

[00:43:08] but a joke about

[00:43:10] raising kids or having a girlfriend

[00:43:12] or being an immigrant or growing up in

[00:43:14] Venezuela that's going to be funny

[00:43:16] or at least it's going to be the premise

[00:43:18] for something funny, something authentic

[00:43:20] about you. For the most part

[00:43:22] you got to be likable

[00:43:24] there are exceptions to that rule as well

[00:43:26] there's the Andrew Dice clays of the world

[00:43:28] there's Chappelle

[00:43:30] they've got their own followers in a different way

[00:43:32] but even Chappelle I would say people like him

[00:43:34] the ones that like him

[00:43:36] and therefore they like his stories

[00:43:38] you got to have

[00:43:40] and again every rule I'm going to give you

[00:43:42] there's exceptions but you got to have

[00:43:44] something funny happening at least every 30 seconds

[00:43:46] so even if it's a 10 minute story

[00:43:48] say like a Chappelle story

[00:43:50] if you dissect his jokes

[00:43:52] there's a funny line

[00:43:54] or a funny little rabbit hole he takes you on

[00:43:56] about every 30 seconds

[00:43:58] because generally if people are coming out to laugh

[00:44:00] they want to be laughing, they don't want to sit

[00:44:02] and wait for some really amazing build up

[00:44:04] the problem is

[00:44:06] even if it's hysterical at the end of 10 minutes

[00:44:08] one laugh for 10 minutes is just

[00:44:10] not enough, it's not a good

[00:44:12] it's not a good ratio

[00:44:14] is there like a ratio laugh per minute type of drill

[00:44:16] 30 seconds is sort of a rule of thumb

[00:44:18] and again you could do different

[00:44:20] obviously you could do more

[00:44:22] but you don't want to do much less because

[00:44:24] then you're putting all your metaphor

[00:44:26] eggs in one basket

[00:44:28] and you're hoping that the punchline

[00:44:30] is going to be rewarding enough

[00:44:32] to justify all that time

[00:44:34] again sometimes that works for

[00:44:36] Chappelle's a good example of me

[00:44:38] he tells these really dry

[00:44:40] poignant stories I'm remembering

[00:44:42] when he tells about a buddy of his

[00:44:44] who he knew

[00:44:46] and then he saw me years later

[00:44:48] and I won't blow his punchline

[00:44:50] but it's a long ways to get there

[00:44:52] but because it was so serious

[00:44:54] and somber and the things this guy had navigated

[00:44:56] the reversal

[00:44:58] the direction that he takes at the very last second

[00:45:00] is a huge payoff

[00:45:02] yeah

[00:45:04] but that's a big investment to make

[00:45:06] if you're not Chappelle

[00:45:08] that actually

[00:45:10] I'm seeing a lot of parallels between

[00:45:12] comedy and content creation

[00:45:14] you said don't put all your

[00:45:16] eggs in one basket

[00:45:18] meaning in the terms of

[00:45:20] laugh per minute don't get only one laugh

[00:45:22] in a 10 minutes set

[00:45:24] because obviously your risk

[00:45:26] is failing is way bigger than

[00:45:28] if you do it every 30 seconds

[00:45:30] then you'll be having potential

[00:45:32] potentially 20 moments for

[00:45:34] laugh in a 10 minutes

[00:45:36] set if you do it every 30 seconds

[00:45:38] which gets me thinking

[00:45:40] don't put all your eggs in one basket

[00:45:42] when it comes to content

[00:45:44] don't put all your eggs in one basket

[00:45:46] because it's a huge payoff

[00:45:48] and if you're not going to

[00:45:50] justify your content

[00:45:52] we're actually talking a lot about this

[00:45:54] with our clients at the moment

[00:45:56] and it was one of our predictions for 2024

[00:45:58] which is

[00:46:00] there's going to be more series

[00:46:02] out on

[00:46:04] creators

[00:46:06] so for example somebody that creates short for content

[00:46:08] they're gonna do a series

[00:46:10] on how to run a podcast

[00:46:12] and all that type of stuff

[00:46:14] 30 seconds wait, 30 seconds I'm going for my next one

[00:46:16] but

[00:46:18] you know all those things

[00:46:20] is super important for creators

[00:46:22] and the fact that you said the same thing

[00:46:24] for comedians I found this super interesting

[00:46:26] so many parallels

[00:46:28] yeah speaking is speaking I agree with your diversity

[00:46:30] so for example if you had a podcast

[00:46:32] you definitely wouldn't want both podcasters

[00:46:34] to have the same name right that would be a bad

[00:46:36] yeah that would definitely be rough

[00:46:38] for sure that's why we

[00:46:40] didn't do well he changed it for me into

[00:46:42] Fonzie we used to say

[00:46:44] and I had to embrace it we used to say that the sexy voice

[00:46:46] was Fonzie I don't say that anymore

[00:46:48] yeah because you have Fonzie

[00:46:50] you've been practicing your voice trying to get sexy

[00:46:52] it's only the ums I think the ums make it sexy

[00:46:54] the ums it's your dad's fault

[00:46:56] your mom and dad's fault they're the ones that named you guys the same

[00:46:58] we say it was a marketing

[00:47:00] strategy from our mom honestly

[00:47:02] I was the only one to benefit from that

[00:47:04] strategy because I'm the younger one

[00:47:06] so probably shouldn't be talking about this with a

[00:47:08] lawyer here in the room but obviously

[00:47:10] you know when you're younger than 21 and you

[00:47:12] go out to party and stuff like that right

[00:47:14] not just to party to buy things on credit too

[00:47:16] my credit was all my stuff

[00:47:18] his his ID came in

[00:47:20] perfect for me right

[00:47:22] that's a good point and then hand me down it's like personalized

[00:47:24] clothing you could wear all the same way

[00:47:26] personalized clothing now when we

[00:47:28] go at events when we introduce ourselves

[00:47:30] I've never actually introduced myself as Fonzie

[00:47:32] right when we introduce ourselves we're always

[00:47:34] I'm Luis and then they turn to me and I'm like

[00:47:36] Luis and we're brothers

[00:47:38] and people look at us are you actually brothers

[00:47:40] are you actual brothers your fraternity

[00:47:42] brothers yeah we're like no we're real

[00:47:44] brothers with the same name

[00:47:46] so that causes an impression on people

[00:47:48] therefore an emotion

[00:47:50] therefore they remember us next time

[00:47:52] they see us so that's what we say or mom

[00:47:54] was just a marketing genius she doesn't

[00:47:56] know it but all credit to her mom

[00:47:58] yeah yeah people either remember both of

[00:48:00] you or neither of you there we go

[00:48:02] hopefully they do remember

[00:48:04] they normally remember the best bro which is this guy

[00:48:06] the bad jokes

[00:48:08] the um guy

[00:48:10] yeah absolutely

[00:48:12] the cookie guy

[00:48:14] okay so how long is the

[00:48:16] set that we have to prepare

[00:48:18] if you're gonna go out and just test it out

[00:48:20] try it out you know if you have five minutes ready

[00:48:22] that's pretty good five minutes

[00:48:24] I was thinking about 60 seconds

[00:48:26] it's because you're used to watching

[00:48:28] Kiltonny which is 60 seconds

[00:48:30] but I feel like that's like great start

[00:48:32] one minute okay so maybe this is how we

[00:48:34] break it down right prepare a minute at a time

[00:48:36] sure focusing on

[00:48:38] the premise which is the story something true that

[00:48:40] happened right or that is true to us

[00:48:42] and something

[00:48:44] fun it has to happen every 30 seconds

[00:48:46] so that will be

[00:48:48] like a good framework to kind of start writing

[00:48:50] that's a perfect framework and then

[00:48:52] I mean nobody's ever going to spend more

[00:48:54] time on stage so if you got a good

[00:48:56] 30 seconds or 60 seconds

[00:48:58] or a couple minutes

[00:49:00] but more often

[00:49:02] people blow the time

[00:49:04] and the host will put

[00:49:06] a light up at the back a flashlight that

[00:49:08] tells you it's time for you to wrap it up

[00:49:10] it's time to get out of here

[00:49:12] clearly they're kicking me out

[00:49:14] so I'm just gonna walk out

[00:49:16] I'm just about done

[00:49:18] and then they'll do another five minutes

[00:49:20] so yeah that's the worst thing when you're

[00:49:22] new at it it's really hard to know when to end

[00:49:24] sounds like that won't be your problem

[00:49:26] you're going with it

[00:49:28] we just continue

[00:49:30] Mike is there a routine

[00:49:32] you do for your art

[00:49:34] and your craft like how do you

[00:49:36] we're coming here to an end

[00:49:38] obviously our craft is our podcast

[00:49:40] so we do it three times a week

[00:49:42] we try to stay as consistent as possible

[00:49:44] we've done it plenty of times and it's definitely helped us

[00:49:46] on comedy what I've heard

[00:49:48] is that you gotta write

[00:49:50] write, write, write

[00:49:52] what's your

[00:49:54] how do you master your craft?

[00:49:56] yeah I exercise that every day

[00:49:58] and I do think I create more than the average

[00:50:00] comedian it doesn't mean I create

[00:50:02] good but I do write every day

[00:50:04] a lot of comedians so we'll get there

[00:50:06] tight 10, get a really good set of 10 minutes

[00:50:08] and then they'll add something

[00:50:10] periodically or occasionally

[00:50:12] I write new jokes and try them out every week

[00:50:14] because A I invite people to come see me

[00:50:16] time and again and so

[00:50:18] I feel like I owe them new jokes

[00:50:20] maybe not 100% new jokes but some new jokes

[00:50:22] what I do is I

[00:50:24] I do write new jokes but if you watch the late night shows

[00:50:26] I write as if I work for Stephen Colbert

[00:50:28] I will take the headlines

[00:50:30] and see something happening

[00:50:32] hopefully not something tragic but

[00:50:34] whatever the Air Alaska

[00:50:36] playing with the windows blown off

[00:50:38] obviously a big deal now

[00:50:40] we're ready to get that 50% off-flight

[00:50:42] exactly that's what I saw yesterday

[00:50:44] they were giving 30% off on their tickets

[00:50:46] and I said everybody gets a window seat

[00:50:48] not, you know it's not a great joke

[00:50:50] but it's an exercise

[00:50:52] and talk about every 30 seconds

[00:50:54] it's just a set up and a punchline

[00:50:56] a set up and a punchline so I'll do that

[00:50:58] for at least 20 minutes every morning

[00:51:00] some of those jokes never see the light of day

[00:51:02] and here's the thing

[00:51:04] if they're good jokes they don't last very long

[00:51:06] because if it's a joke about

[00:51:08] Christmas or New Year's or the

[00:51:10] Air Alaska plane nobody's going to want to hear about that

[00:51:12] in 3 months at least I hope not

[00:51:14] another parallel

[00:51:16] another parallel with content right here

[00:51:18] right trending topics

[00:51:20] and then evergreen content

[00:51:22] that's pretty much

[00:51:24] the two main buckets

[00:51:26] which we produce content with our clients

[00:51:28] which is trending right, is there anything

[00:51:30] right now that has attention to it

[00:51:32] they also you can leverage to

[00:51:34] divert attention

[00:51:36] towards yourself and towards your craft

[00:51:38] and then you use that but again

[00:51:40] that joke won't last too long but then you get the evergreen ones

[00:51:42] which I'm guessing in comedy might be

[00:51:44] the more your

[00:51:46] story something more organic

[00:51:48] historical that has lasted

[00:51:50] the test of time correct and I'm always trying

[00:51:52] you know you want to create those jokes about parenting

[00:51:54] jokes about more general

[00:51:56] airline travel

[00:51:58] and hope that they last a while and then you file

[00:52:00] them away because I do a lot of corporate gigs

[00:52:02] and sometimes you got to pull out the jokes

[00:52:04] that relate to this specific industry

[00:52:06] or what have you

[00:52:08] wow I love it this is awesome

[00:52:10] alright, challenge accepted

[00:52:12] I'm not putting a date on it yes but I'll start

[00:52:14] writing and see what comes up

[00:52:16] do you present every week, do you go on stage every week?

[00:52:18] I do about 10 shows a month

[00:52:20] on average which could be 5 in a week

[00:52:22] and none the next week and then maybe 2 or 3

[00:52:24] the following on average

[00:52:26] I do and would be remiss if I didn't tell your listeners

[00:52:28] who are at least in the northeast Florida area

[00:52:30] February 17th

[00:52:32] the clean comedy series at Murray Hill Theater

[00:52:34] Dry Bar Comedian Danny Johnson

[00:52:36] will be

[00:52:38] the headliner Joey Nick will be the feature

[00:52:40] and I'll be hosting so come on out for that

[00:52:42] get your tickets now it's a 300 person

[00:52:44] venue would love to fill it up

[00:52:46] and to have clean comedy every month

[00:52:48] at the Murray Hill Theater

[00:52:50] I think there's a market for it obviously

[00:52:52] Jacksonville is a very, you know

[00:52:54] it's got a lot of different people but it also has

[00:52:56] a lot of churches and I'm sometimes

[00:52:58] resistant to invite church friends

[00:53:00] to come here may even though I'm clean

[00:53:02] because the next guy might be talking about

[00:53:04] dick jokes or something I like to say

[00:53:06] dick jokes on your broadcast

[00:53:08] might be talking about those things

[00:53:10] that could be funny but it's not for everybody

[00:53:12] here's an opportunity for everybody who says

[00:53:14] they just want clean comedy

[00:53:16] to come to the Murray Hill Theater

[00:53:18] Clean Comedy Series February 17th

[00:53:20] Murray Hill Theater

[00:53:22] on their website, on their event page

[00:53:24] and you can go right there get your tickets

[00:53:26] and show up it's Valentine's weekend

[00:53:28] what a better place to bring

[00:53:30] your daughter, your wife, your girlfriend

[00:53:32] probably not a girlfriend and wife

[00:53:34] I would separate this

[00:53:36] Fancy ass with you buddy

[00:53:38] Madison Delt did not listen

[00:53:40] to this guy

[00:53:42] is one Louis that's married

[00:53:44] he's just trying to keep it that way

[00:53:46] you're just saying that to get cookies

[00:53:48] yeah he's doing cookie

[00:53:50] I'm looking here

[00:53:52] there's also an event bright page

[00:53:54] where people can go and they can

[00:53:56] get the tickets we're gonna link that on the description

[00:53:58] but you know I think it would be fun

[00:54:00] if we give out a few tickets

[00:54:02] we can give out five tickets first people to DM

[00:54:04] DM us you know

[00:54:06] we want in or cookies

[00:54:08] whatever just DM us that you want to go to the show

[00:54:10] and we'll give you guys

[00:54:12] some tickets yeah absolutely

[00:54:14] and we'll be there

[00:54:16] we'll be there for sure

[00:54:18] you guys are hearing that too right

[00:54:20] the back of the room is very far

[00:54:22] this is the laugh of like minute two

[00:54:24] first joke we told

[00:54:26] just came back

[00:54:28] she said oh man giving her the chance to get back

[00:54:30] it's all about the mindset

[00:54:32] there you go

[00:54:34] close in loops

[00:54:36] close in loops let me tell you

[00:54:38] another parallel

[00:54:40] do we open a loop

[00:54:42] that's actually I've seen that a lot in comedy

[00:54:44] I like geeking out on breaking down things

[00:54:46] ooh they said this thing five minutes ago

[00:54:48] and now they're closing it down

[00:54:50] I like structuring things like that

[00:54:52] I think it's pretty cool

[00:54:54] it's so funny because

[00:54:56] people always build callbacks into my sets

[00:54:58] because it's like a magic trick

[00:55:00] people are like oh he said that

[00:55:02] ten minutes ago and now he's talking about it again

[00:55:04] that's genius

[00:55:06] I'm gonna share the story

[00:55:08] of the first ever callback I experienced

[00:55:10] and it was

[00:55:12] amazing it was actually

[00:55:14] a kid from my grade back

[00:55:16] home back in Venezuela

[00:55:18] we used to do this from your grave

[00:55:20] my grade

[00:55:22] we used to do

[00:55:24] these trips

[00:55:26] we used to do these trips

[00:55:28] when we're in fourth fifth grade and sixth grade

[00:55:30] where we would go a week with

[00:55:32] or classmates to

[00:55:34] somewhere in the country

[00:55:36] it was a lot of fun

[00:55:38] and we went to this beautiful place called La Gran Savana

[00:55:40] honestly if you ever go to Venezuela

[00:55:42] it's the Grand Savannah

[00:55:44] I appreciate it

[00:55:46] I appreciate it

[00:55:48] it's incredible that's where the angels

[00:55:50] falls is right the biggest waterfall

[00:55:52] in the world and

[00:55:54] we had one night where everybody was sitting

[00:55:56] in a circle we were telling jokes

[00:55:58] and some were good some were

[00:56:00] pretty terrible and this kid gets up

[00:56:02] and he starts sharing

[00:56:04] the most

[00:56:06] I don't know detailed

[00:56:08] packed just like this story

[00:56:10] joke ever

[00:56:12] he's like two minutes into the story

[00:56:14] not even hitting a punchline or anything

[00:56:16] and it's about this guy

[00:56:18] and a ring and then all of a sudden

[00:56:20] he says and the guy gets upset and he just

[00:56:22] throws the ring into the ocean

[00:56:24] and he gets lost

[00:56:26] and everybody's like alright and then what

[00:56:28] and there was like no punchline

[00:56:30] it was terrible it wasn't a joke

[00:56:32] and the kid's like alright that's a joke

[00:56:34] and everybody's like what this is horrible

[00:56:36] get out of here dude

[00:56:38] you know the classmates

[00:56:40] we were like maybe 9, 10

[00:56:42] you suck

[00:56:44] and then I'm not getting 30 minutes later

[00:56:46] he comes back he's like alright

[00:56:48] alright I got another joke

[00:56:50] and everybody's like alright cool

[00:56:52] and he starts another story and people are like

[00:56:54] oh my gosh this is terrible

[00:56:56] I know one of this and the story is about

[00:56:58] a diver

[00:57:00] so he's talking how the diver

[00:57:02] all of a sudden

[00:57:04] founds the ring

[00:57:06] that everybody cracked up

[00:57:08] we're like what

[00:57:10] this is amazing

[00:57:12] you know the set of that he did

[00:57:14] he endured the booze

[00:57:16] of the whole crowd

[00:57:18] then waited 30 minutes

[00:57:20] the patience required to pull this off

[00:57:22] and then he stepped in there and did that

[00:57:24] this is one of the ones in our lifetime

[00:57:26] this is prime Netflix special out here

[00:57:28] wow you need to check that guy down

[00:57:30] that's something

[00:57:32] he's in Santiago

[00:57:34] well last time I talked to him

[00:57:36] he was in Canada I don't know where he is right now

[00:57:38] he left an impression on you

[00:57:40] he definitely left an impression

[00:57:42] and I was like wow

[00:57:44] so I love cold legs when I see a good one

[00:57:46] I'm like this guy

[00:57:48] that's awesome

[00:57:50] dude Maggie it's been an absolute pleasure having you

[00:57:52] and is there anything else that you want to share

[00:57:54] with our audience

[00:57:56] before we head out

[00:57:58] if you're not following these guys

[00:58:00] you need to and if you're not doing business with them

[00:58:02] I know they didn't ask me for that but they do help produce

[00:58:04] my show

[00:58:06] my first rodeo podcast love it if you listen to that

[00:58:08] it's free to laugh

[00:58:10] and keep doing the great things you guys are doing

[00:58:12] and I will be following your advice

[00:58:14] thank you

[00:58:16] I personally want to bring you back

[00:58:18] to talk a lot about the

[00:58:20] philanthropy side

[00:58:22] I think that is absolutely amazing what you're doing there

[00:58:24] and I also want to talk more about your podcast inside

[00:58:26] you know you talk at the beginning

[00:58:28] you mentioned that you are like to jump

[00:58:30] in you know into things

[00:58:32] you cannot do that in law

[00:58:34] but I feel like you have this side of you where you like to try out things

[00:58:36] and

[00:58:38] the philanthropy that you've put together

[00:58:40] free to run

[00:58:42] is a testament to that I think that's something that you probably created

[00:58:44] with those emotions I want to help people

[00:58:46] you started it and now you've raised

[00:58:48] over two million dollars

[00:58:50] yeah we're up to 2.5

[00:58:52] 2.5 million dollars for pediatric patients

[00:58:54] and senior citizens

[00:58:56] incredible

[00:58:58] so let's bring you back and talk more about that

[00:59:00] I'm going to leave an open loop

[00:59:02] that will close

[00:59:04] who knows but it's going to be more than half an hour

[00:59:06] that too we talk

[00:59:08] about selling businesses right

[00:59:10] so a lot of creators and people that have

[00:59:12] businesses maybe that might be a thing

[00:59:14] that they're not thinking right now but it's something

[00:59:16] that we should all be thinking

[00:59:18] on the lawyer side if you need a lawyer

[00:59:20] comedian I am one of them

[00:59:22] absolutely

[00:59:24] sweet Fonzie anything else

[00:59:26] no just thank you Mike it was awesome

[00:59:28] I appreciate you

[00:59:30] with that said guys thank you so much for tuning into

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